Spotlight: An Upbeat Interview with Rajesh Setty

Tanmay Vora
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Rajesh Setty is a visionary entrepreneur, author of several books including “Life Beyond Code” and an avid blogger. It is a privilege to interview Rajesh on his recently launched book “Upbeat – Cultivating the right attitude to thrive in tough times“. Upbeat is not only a book for the recessionary times, but is a great resource for some very useful ideas on career management.

[Tanmay Vora] Rajesh, it’s a pleasure interviewing you. First of all, how was “Upbeat” conceptualized? How did you come up with the idea of writing  this book?

[Rajesh Setty]
Thank you Tanmay for the opportunity to have this conversation.
I had an opportunity to build my first startup during the previous recession. It was not easy. The easiest way to define what was happening then was that “nobody was buying anything from anyone and everybody was trying selling something to everyone.” If we loved bad news, then we were in luck. There was bad news everyday – on the TV, in the newspapers, on the radio and there was generally some bad news shared during any interaction with anyone – online or offline.

We learned a lot during that period as the only way to have survived running a “bootstrapped” startup was to stay Upbeat. So I wrote most of it during that journey but by the time I completed the book, that recession was over. So I packed it up and and kept it aside.  I didn’t have to wait for long as there was a another recession very soon. I unpacked the book, updated it and got it published.

[Tanmay Vora]  Why do you think this book was necessary and who all will it help?

[Rajesh Setty]
There are so many opportunities for us to get bogged down today. You can find depressing news via the media – I mean all kinds of media – newspapers, blogs, websites, twitter etc. If you want to find a reason to be unhappy or down, then you will find it plenty outside.
Of course, by being in a bad mood, you can’t get much done. At best, you will find a great excuse for not accomplishing much. Take a look at this equation
Big Dreams + Brilliant Excuses = Success in a Fantasy World.

During tough times people are handed “brilliant excuses” almost everyday. If you take the bait, then you got a license for inaction.

The book is short and talks about how you can avoid getting into this trap and actually take some action during tough times – not just to survive but to thrive!

[Tanmay Vora]  What areas does this book cover?

[Rajesh Setty]
There are five sections in the book:

  1. The Trap: Addresses why we are in a trap today. By just knowing how we get into the trap, we might be able to avoid the trap.
  2. The Discipline: The ultimate discipline is to keep a promise that we make to ourselves. This section talks about how to get into the discipline.
  3. The Strategy: Uncommon problems cannot be solved by common strategies. This section will talk about why you need to “invent” a new strategy and why “common” of “current” strategies won’t work.
  4. The Network: You can rarely do anything significant alone. This section talks about why “giving” (and not “getting”) is the right way to build your network.
  5. The Action: Sitting on the sidelines rarely gets you trophies. This section talks about the need to take action and some immediate steps.

The second part of the book is a workbook and it ends with some suggested action steps for each of the sections mentioned above.

[Tanmay Vora]  If you had to summarize three key messages from the book to readers of this blog, what would those be?

[Rajesh Setty] Here they go:

  1. You have only so much time in your day. So please focus on things that will add capacity to you and others around you to contribute more. This means you will automatically avoid focusing on bad news, gossip and unnecessary “sympathy exchanges” as that will neither add capacity to you or people around you to contribute more.
  2. Relevance all the time: Recession is a time when what was working stops working (typically.) So if something has stopped working for you, the first thing to do is to see if what you were doing is still relevant. If not, it is time to change your game.
  3. Spend less AND spend more. The first quick response to a recession is to cut back on everything. In the process, we tend to cut back on key investments – investments that are required for our growth. This is the time to increase those investments as you need to be growing rapidly. Spend less – meaning cut back on your expenses. Spend more – meaning increase your investments on yourself.

[Tanmay Vora]  Thank you Rajesh for your time and I am sure readers of this blog will be able to pick up some very useful insights from Upbeat to stay upbeat!

11 Comments

Ketan Raiyani July 23, 2009

I really liked it, especially the funda of “Spend less AND spend more”…!!!

Excellent..!!

Thanks Ketan – irrespective of recession, I think investment in self is the key to a successful and fulfilling career. It just assumes more importance in a recessionary time.

Have a great day!

Utpal Vaishnav July 23, 2009

Hi Tanmay,

Very useful interview.

I like this one, “Uncommon problems cannot be solved by common strategies”

How true! “Winners don’t solve uncommon problems they solve common problems uncommonly”

Regards,
Utpal

Thanks for your comments Utpal – most of the times, we are prompted to think out of the box for solving problems. When we do that, we forget to look inside the box where solution may be waiting to be uncovered. Key to problem solving is to know when to look inside the box and when to look outside!

You must read Upbeat once – small and very very useful!

Utpal Vaishnav July 24, 2009

I Agree. We should focus our energies “on” the problems to resolve them rather than being caught up “in” the problems.

Meaning, we need to have several different views to analyse the problems. View from 10000ft, view from 5000ft, view from 1000ft, insider view, micro-insider view… you got the idea.

When we have such 360 degree views of the problem, we can proactively choose whether to think in-the-box or out-of-the-box.

And yes, I’d surely read Upbeat today… Thanks for the suggestion.

Shripal Shah July 25, 2009

Hi Tanmay,

Thanks a lot on bringing Rajesh’s thoughts to us on different forums including this interview on your blog.

Big Dreams + Brilliant Excuses = Success in a Fantasy World is a wonderful insight and we need to consciously act on reducing the Excuses on anything. Unplanned – unevaluated procrastination leads failure.

I was listening to Rajesh’s interview @ http://tinyurl.com/msjwkx and he has elaborated this very well.

Thanks again for bringing these thoughts to all your readers.

Regards,

Shripal Shah

Shripal – Thanks for your comment and I am glad that you found this interview to be insightful. I have been a long time reader of Rajesh’s blog/books. I have listened to the podcast you mentioned.

In the crux, its not about how much you know but how much you do with what you know. That makes all the difference.

Keep writing in.

Pranav Gupta August 4, 2009

Hi Tanmay

I realized from these answers, from Rajesh, that “Actions Speak Louder Than Words”.

btw – nice interview. Thanks for publishing this!

Thanks for commenting Pranav – Upbeat is a brilliant book which addresses the very core of what we do – our attitude.

As Tom Peters says – “ATTITUDE > ABILITY”

Keep reading/commenting!

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